Digi will roll out their 3G network soon, Celcom throttled

Published on May 18, 2008 in Celcom and Digi. 46 Comments

After gone through cumbersome dealing with local authority to acquire 3G spectrum with MCMC, Digi finally finished the transfer process of the 3G Spectrum from TIME dotcom Berhad (TdC) took place on the 7th of May 2008. This is good news for everyone. There will be a new player in town and it will compete with other mobile broadband provider. So Maxis, Celcom, Izzi and Umobile you better provide a good services up to par. So let’s hope for price war soon.

But they are already a user in lowyat forum discovered Digi 3G connection in their dialer. Wow this is fast.

Currently Digi only providing an EDGE broadband and thats what makes me chose Celcom over Digi. But I’m not sure I’ll stay with Celcom any longer after having a very bad experienced with them this past 2 month. The thing is after Celcom Sales recently I’ve noticed that Celcom 3G network congested during peak hours. Line will be smooth 12pm onwards. We didn’t pay to use broadband for a certain time only for god sake. We will use it whenever we wanted too. In addition to that its really frustrating when the line would keep on disconnecting. GRRR. . .

Soon another problem arised. I’ve received a message from Celcom stated that I’ve sucking up their bandwidth way too much! Haha. Served them well. LOL

Actually it’s about their shitty 5GB usage policy. What were they thinking. Do you know how much 5GB is? I can use up all the allocated bandwidth in 3 days! What I’m gonna do for another 27 days? Some people said mobile broadband is only suitable for light surfing and it’s not good for heavy downloaders. Ok with latest web 2.0 styles do you think you can stand with heavy sites that contain flash and entertainment modules like youtube or metacafe?

The conclusion is my line is throttled and I’m so mad about it! Celcom totally misleading people with their so called unlimited broadband promotion. Users out there, make your choice carefully. It’s a small world after all when you are in Boleh Land.

This my test speed when my line is throttled.

Can you imagine? Just like dial up connection. With this speed I can only turn on my Trillian. After a lot of complaints Celcom claim that they were on some sort of maintenances. Not sure true or not as after the timeline given by Celcom the speed is still same. Luckily I’m on a semester break and I’m at home enjoying so so Streamyx 1MB connection.

And this is their so called excuse.

In response to your concern on the difficulty in accessing 3G service, we wish to share with you that we are experiencing some irregularity on the internet browsing at this juncture. We are in the midst of upgrading our system in order to provide customers with better services in the future. Towards this, we wish to extend our sincere apologies.

C’mon join our discussion about Celcom and Digi broadband at forum.izzatz.com/

http://mhafizd.blogspot.com/ Hafizd

hmm…dis is bad!!! real bad!!
http://mhafizd.blogspot.com Hafizd

hmm…dis is bad!!! real bad!!
http://humbleandmodest.blogspot.com/ humbleandmodest

utm-er……
http://humbleandmodest.blogspot.com humbleandmodest

utm-er……
John Lee

This is stupid, feeling like cheat us. What that mean unlimited broadband? Now is only allow us to use not more than 5GB?? ~!@#$%^&*~!@#$%^$#%~@#~$
John Lee

This is stupid, feeling like cheat us. What that mean unlimited broadband? Now is only allow us to use not more than 5GB?? ~!@#$%^&*~!@#$%^$#%~@#~$
http://klfairy.blogspot.com/ KL Fairy

I always wanted to try Celcom 3G, but since they allocate 5GB a month, I don’t think so. Youtube is my life and I highly doubt that 5GB of youtube a month is enough to satisfy my appetite!
http://klfairy.blogspot.com KL Fairy

I always wanted to try Celcom 3G, but since they allocate 5GB a month, I don’t think so. Youtube is my life and I highly doubt that 5GB of youtube a month is enough to satisfy my appetite!
http://www.izzatz.com/ Izzatz

KL Fairy, I’m sure Celcom had increased the limit discreetly. Cause from what I’ve read in local forums, there’s lot of users who has been using more than 15GB and yet didn’t received any single warning.

And to update, I didn’t get throttle anymore
http://www.izzatz.com Izzatz

KL Fairy, I’m sure Celcom had increased the limit discreetly. Cause from what I’ve read in local forums, there’s lot of users who has been using more than 15GB and yet didn’t received any single warning.

And to update, I didn’t get throttle anymore
KHAI

Damn Nigger!!! 5 Gb per month! This is double shit on a stick 4 me! I downloads manga everyday… Uhh.
And ur r8 about d speed. The first day is fast, but after that its becoming more and more snail speed.
How lucky we are 2 get this shitty provider eh? Hopes dat there will be more players in town so dat these cutthroat company will be more serious in doing their services.
KHAI

Damn Nigger!!! 5 Gb per month! This is double shit on a stick 4 me! I downloads manga everyday… Uhh.
And ur r8 about d speed. The first day is fast, but after that its becoming more and more snail speed.
How lucky we are 2 get this shitty provider eh? Hopes dat there will be more players in town so dat these cutthroat company will be more serious in doing their services.
Fung

My Celcom Broadband now has been Limited to around 100Kbps due to the heavy downloading and youtube…
Too BAD!!!
I just subscribed to Celcom Broadband not more than 10 days…
I think I will go to cancel the account…
Fung

My Celcom Broadband now has been Limited to around 100Kbps due to the heavy downloading and youtube…
Too BAD!!!
I just subscribed to Celcom Broadband not more than 10 days…
I think I will go to cancel the account…
student

quite bad experience to Celcom 3G service at UM area.b4 tis Celcom down 2week continuous.after recovery, always provide me 0Kbps service,suck Celcom 3G..
student

quite bad experience to Celcom 3G service at UM area.b4 tis Celcom down 2week continuous.after recovery, always provide me 0Kbps service,suck Celcom 3G..
aster01ds

Last week I subscribed to Celcom broadband. Used up 5 GB bandwidth in 3 days. Celcom first throttled my access connection and then barred my access. Guess I’ll cancel my account after receiving and paying my first monthly bill to avoid further headache. If I were a light user I might as well visit the internet cyber cafe.
aster01ds

Last week I subscribed to Celcom broadband. Used up 5 GB bandwidth in 3 days. Celcom first throttled my access connection and then barred my access. Guess I’ll cancel my account after receiving and paying my first monthly bill to avoid further headache. If I were a light user I might as well visit the internet cyber cafe.
mas_cokok

Guys,

I believe all of you are right! Should terminate your subscription with Celcom Broadband. Also forget about Maxis and the upcoming Digi as well as any kind broadband service, whether it is based on 3G, WiMax, wired or wireless.

IN FACT, YOU GUYS SHOULD NOT SUBSCRIBE TO THESE BROADBAND TYPES AT ALL!! They all suckssss and forever will! (because of your abuse)

DO UNDERSTAND the concept of broadband service first! The hogging of internet bandwidth like that is really the culprit. Not the service provider. Google on broadband and learn.

How do you get connection to those servers of YouTube? Do you understand?

First, on the internet, YouTube servers get connection to its local Internet Service Provider and get certain bandwidth say 100mbps. That ISP connect through a gateway to the PAID, SHARED worldwideweb that Malaysian ISP including TMNet, Timenet, Maxisnet, Diginet and WhateverNet. Each ISP get certain bandwidth limit on the connection. There is no such thing as limitless.

Then, from the local ISP to your PC. Each of our local ISP connect to WWW using TM internet gateway or their own in KL.

From there, distributed to all parts of our country by trunk links or backbones. Then distributed to regions – central northern eastern southern and east Malaysia – like our telephone calling regions.

From regional centres there are Network Access Centres (NAC) that branch to districts and then towns where you have Remote Access Switches (RAS) where we have last mile connection. Namely, these are the connection that we are paying. not more.

On dialup, there are modem pool to take our 1515, 1511 calls and charge accordingly. Some 2000 users @56kbps share 2-10mbps link to the backbone.

On streamyx bb, there are DSL access multiplexer (DSLAM) where xDSL sobscribers are connected to. Depending on the number of subscriber in the area, an aggregate link of 2, 10, 45 or 100mbps is shared among the users for access to internet.

On wired, the fibre can handle many megabits or gigabits per seconds per link, so the bandwidth to the concentrator can be upgraded easily, so they can cater the speed subscribed.

On wireless like 3G, backhaul minilink microwaves carry signals to the BTS. This alone limit the link from the NAS to BTS 34mbps and to be shared among BTSes along the line.

Finally, the BTS for 3G itself. As radio spectrum allocated to service providers are limited, a very narrow band is allocated to Celcom (other operators as well) to service its customers, so not to cause iinterference to other users.

This small band is shared by all subscribers around the BTS, for voice, video call and data connection (include internet). The spectrum being narrow, if used only by few who hogs it, will deprive other users from the benefits they are paying for. Therefore the policy to impose limit to these abuses.

So, to conclude, broadband service is meant to be use wisely. Abuse of broadband is discouraged. If heavy downloading is your life, then go get direct internet connection line using leased line and pay the premium.

DO NOT HOG!

PERIOD.
mas_cokok

Guys,

I believe all of you are right! Should terminate your subscription with Celcom Broadband. Also forget about Maxis and the upcoming Digi as well as any kind broadband service, whether it is based on 3G, WiMax, wired or wireless.

IN FACT, YOU GUYS SHOULD NOT SUBSCRIBE TO THESE BROADBAND TYPES AT ALL!! They all suckssss and forever will! (because of your abuse)

DO UNDERSTAND the concept of broadband service first! The hogging of internet bandwidth like that is really the culprit. Not the service provider. Google on broadband and learn.

How do you get connection to those servers of YouTube? Do you understand?

First, on the internet, YouTube servers get connection to its local Internet Service Provider and get certain bandwidth say 100mbps. That ISP connect through a gateway to the PAID, SHARED worldwideweb that Malaysian ISP including TMNet, Timenet, Maxisnet, Diginet and WhateverNet. Each ISP get certain bandwidth limit on the connection. There is no such thing as limitless.

Then, from the local ISP to your PC. Each of our local ISP connect to WWW using TM internet gateway or their own in KL.

From there, distributed to all parts of our country by trunk links or backbones. Then distributed to regions – central northern eastern southern and east Malaysia – like our telephone calling regions.

From regional centres there are Network Access Centres (NAC) that branch to districts and then towns where you have Remote Access Switches (RAS) where we have last mile connection. Namely, these are the connection that we are paying. not more.

On dialup, there are modem pool to take our 1515, 1511 calls and charge accordingly. Some 2000 users @56kbps share 2-10mbps link to the backbone.

On streamyx bb, there are DSL access multiplexer (DSLAM) where xDSL sobscribers are connected to. Depending on the number of subscriber in the area, an aggregate link of 2, 10, 45 or 100mbps is shared among the users for access to internet.

On wired, the fibre can handle many megabits or gigabits per seconds per link, so the bandwidth to the concentrator can be upgraded easily, so they can cater the speed subscribed.

On wireless like 3G, backhaul minilink microwaves carry signals to the BTS. This alone limit the link from the NAS to BTS 34mbps and to be shared among BTSes along the line.

Finally, the BTS for 3G itself. As radio spectrum allocated to service providers are limited, a very narrow band is allocated to Celcom (other operators as well) to service its customers, so not to cause iinterference to other users.

This small band is shared by all subscribers around the BTS, for voice, video call and data connection (include internet). The spectrum being narrow, if used only by few who hogs it, will deprive other users from the benefits they are paying for. Therefore the policy to impose limit to these abuses.

So, to conclude, broadband service is meant to be use wisely. Abuse of broadband is discouraged. If heavy downloading is your life, then go get direct internet connection line using leased line and pay the premium.

DO NOT HOG!

PERIOD.
John B

To reply to permalink – That was a great tutorial on the exact functioning of celcom broadband. I see now why it runs so slow. You said at the end “if heavy downloading is your life then…. ” I however don’t think these peoples usage is heavy downloading. Or mine. They all verify what I was mislead to believe.. that these wireless providers offer unlimited use and at a dl speed of up to 3.6 mps and upload up to 384.
We are all just using the internet as we always have. 5GB at the speeds celcom LIED to us that they provide – would be used up in a matter of days. They LIED and said it goes that fast and they LIED (or concealed) that it was unlimited. Other wise we would have done just as you said. Put in a phone in and ordered DSL through a landline. Where are we supposed to get the money for that now that these giant corporate telecomunications companies literally ripped us off like a cheap 2 bit crack dealer? And I had prepay for 6 MONTHS service because I’m a foreigner.
Whad do I do now? Throw the whole 1000 RM modem and sim card in the trash even though it still barely not work at all for another 6 months?
John B

To reply to permalink – That was a great tutorial on the exact functioning of celcom broadband. I see now why it runs so slow. You said at the end “if heavy downloading is your life then…. ” I however don’t think these peoples usage is heavy downloading. Or mine. They all verify what I was mislead to believe.. that these wireless providers offer unlimited use and at a dl speed of up to 3.6 mps and upload up to 384.
We are all just using the internet as we always have. 5GB at the speeds celcom LIED to us that they provide – would be used up in a matter of days. They LIED and said it goes that fast and they LIED (or concealed) that it was unlimited. Other wise we would have done just as you said. Put in a phone in and ordered DSL through a landline. Where are we supposed to get the money for that now that these giant corporate telecomunications companies literally ripped us off like a cheap 2 bit crack dealer? And I had prepay for 6 MONTHS service because I’m a foreigner.
Whad do I do now? Throw the whole 1000 RM modem and sim card in the trash even though it still barely not work at all for another 6 months?
mas_cokok

The reason I list out the functioning of telecommunication service provider is to help people understand what we are being offered by telecomm companies. Isn’t it sickening when people simply shout being cheated when in reality they are the one who do, and don’t read the agreement clause at all. It is stated clearly in the “FAIR USAGE POLICY”. Celcom display this, and so is maxis. Now, who is the defaulter?

In the furure, if Digi finds that few customers do this kind of BANDWIDTH HOGGING, it will surely implement this policy. Ask other service providers for this kind of connection, google it, go discover that even in the most advanced countries do impose this measures.

The way broadband is created and operated is meant for the benefit of all people by sharing certain resources that would otherwise be beyond anybody’s reach. This include the normal people’s internet usage pattern can be catered by the infrastructure. For example, in internet surfing, users will open pages, using the bandwidth of the infra for a short period, and free up the infra again for other users.

When a few of user use up the infrastructure’s bandwidth, for long time such as downloading large movie files, this cause infrastructure bottleneck, and the VAST MAJORITY of users suffer connection degrade.

On 3G spectrum, the infrastructure has a certain limit on its capability to transfer bytes, therefore “fair usage policy” need to be applied for the benefit of the majority users. Check on other 3G service providers around the world. Most providers impose the limits.

ADSL has fibre optics as backbone. For those who don’t know fibres are capable multi terabits per second per stretch of a hair-thin fibre core. The equipment determine the limit. 100mbps backhaul for DSLAM that feed 400 Streamyx users in a housing area (for example) or an apartment byilding is easily achievable. On cellular network, the Base Transceiver Station (BTS) need a number of microwave links to Base Station Controller sharing 2, 8, 16, up to 32mbps among the BTSes along the line, and how many users can a 3G phone BTS service at any one time, with that 8mbps backbone? A 2mbps link normally caters 30 concurrent voice calls. See how hoggers rip us off?

Other technologies may have better performance and infratsructure. A Wimax and WiFi may have landline feeding them so bandwidth normally vast and not throttled.

5GB limit is way above my requirements (at least currently). But when few bandwidth hoggers come in, everybody else suffer service degrade. So, it is best that network hogging is controlled for the benefit of all people (and then penalize the hogs for their wrongdoings). I also look for other connections if need to download big files, knowing there are too many hogs on the network.

Anyway, after providing DIRT CHEAP internet service, being CHEATED by hoggers, the service providers are still too forgiving by still servicing the hogs although at throttled speed, and not simply cut off. WHAT UNTHANKFUL HOGS!

So again, if you want to download or upload songs and movies a lot, and that is your life, then, FOR GOD’s SAKE, STAY AWAY FROM 3G BROADBAND!! Save the world!

On the matter of “unlimited use,” so far I have yet to reach 5GB a month usage. Using hardly 3GB, I won’t be limited yet, but my reduced speed while opening pages or sending/receiving email, is really because of being RIPPED OFF by those HOGS.

“We are just using internet as we always have, abusively. We LIED by downloading prohibited materials, that we agreed not to do so by signing up the agreement, so denying others fair use of internet service, by persistently using up the system bandwidth meant to be shared with other subscribers. We LIED by hogging the system which cause network bottlenecks unscrupulously, causing link drops suffered by other users throughout the universe, causing the world-wide-web capacity reach the limits and come to a crawl..”

“These giant telecommunication company literally ripped us off,” is truly literal. The REALITY is we are being ripped off by HOGS in our community (the universe).
mas_cokok

The reason I list out the functioning of telecommunication service provider is to help people understand what we are being offered by telecomm companies. Isn’t it sickening when people simply shout being cheated when in reality they are the one who do, and don’t read the agreement clause at all. It is stated clearly in the “FAIR USAGE POLICY”. Celcom display this, and so is maxis. Now, who is the defaulter?

In the furure, if Digi finds that few customers do this kind of BANDWIDTH HOGGING, it will surely implement this policy. Ask other service providers for this kind of connection, google it, go discover that even in the most advanced countries do impose this measures.

The way broadband is created and operated is meant for the benefit of all people by sharing certain resources that would otherwise be beyond anybody’s reach. This include the normal people’s internet usage pattern can be catered by the infrastructure. For example, in internet surfing, users will open pages, using the bandwidth of the infra for a short period, and free up the infra again for other users.

When a few of user use up the infrastructure’s bandwidth, for long time such as downloading large movie files, this cause infrastructure bottleneck, and the VAST MAJORITY of users suffer connection degrade.

On 3G spectrum, the infrastructure has a certain limit on its capability to transfer bytes, therefore “fair usage policy” need to be applied for the benefit of the majority users. Check on other 3G service providers around the world. Most providers impose the limits.

ADSL has fibre optics as backbone. For those who don’t know fibres are capable multi terabits per second per stretch of a hair-thin fibre core. The equipment determine the limit. 100mbps backhaul for DSLAM that feed 400 Streamyx users in a housing area (for example) or an apartment byilding is easily achievable. On cellular network, the Base Transceiver Station (BTS) need a number of microwave links to Base Station Controller sharing 2, 8, 16, up to 32mbps among the BTSes along the line, and how many users can a 3G phone BTS service at any one time, with that 8mbps backbone? A 2mbps link normally caters 30 concurrent voice calls. See how hoggers rip us off?

Other technologies may have better performance and infratsructure. A Wimax and WiFi may have landline feeding them so bandwidth normally vast and not throttled.

5GB limit is way above my requirements (at least currently). But when few bandwidth hoggers come in, everybody else suffer service degrade. So, it is best that network hogging is controlled for the benefit of all people (and then penalize the hogs for their wrongdoings). I also look for other connections if need to download big files, knowing there are too many hogs on the network.

Anyway, after providing DIRT CHEAP internet service, being CHEATED by hoggers, the service providers are still too forgiving by still servicing the hogs although at throttled speed, and not simply cut off. WHAT UNTHANKFUL HOGS!

So again, if you want to download or upload songs and movies a lot, and that is your life, then, FOR GOD’s SAKE, STAY AWAY FROM 3G BROADBAND!! Save the world!

On the matter of “unlimited use,” so far I have yet to reach 5GB a month usage. Using hardly 3GB, I won’t be limited yet, but my reduced speed while opening pages or sending/receiving email, is really because of being RIPPED OFF by those HOGS.

“We are just using internet as we always have, abusively. We LIED by downloading prohibited materials, that we agreed not to do so by signing up the agreement, so denying others fair use of internet service, by persistently using up the system bandwidth meant to be shared with other subscribers. We LIED by hogging the system which cause network bottlenecks unscrupulously, causing link drops suffered by other users throughout the universe, causing the world-wide-web capacity reach the limits and come to a crawl..”

“These giant telecommunication company literally ripped us off,” is truly literal. The REALITY is we are being ripped off by HOGS in our community (the universe).
aster01ds

I am happy and have no headache now because I have just TERMINATED my Celcom broadband account. It isn’t suitable to me because I am a HOGGER who like downloading movie files and playing online games. I will stick to streamyx even sometime it is slow but it doesn’t throttle or block my internet access.
aster01ds

I am happy and have no headache now because I have just TERMINATED my Celcom broadband account. It isn’t suitable to me because I am a HOGGER who like downloading movie files and playing online games. I will stick to streamyx even sometime it is slow but it doesn’t throttle or block my internet access.
mas_cokok

ooooo… that’s an excellent move.. bravo!
mas_cokok

ooooo… that’s an excellent move.. bravo!
mas_cokok

correction.

HOGging usually means using up resource which is meant for many for oneself, which result in denying others of access or use of such resource.

Downloading movies on small bandwidth such as 3G will cause hogging, but on streamyx may not be so, as streamyx has lot more bandwidth.

Terminate.. Good for you, and good for others too. Happy downloading then.

IzziNet. Anyone? Is it capped too? Guess when heavy downloading cause service degrade, it will take similar action too.
mas_cokok

correction.

HOGging usually means using up resource which is meant for many for oneself, which result in denying others of access or use of such resource.

Downloading movies on small bandwidth such as 3G will cause hogging, but on streamyx may not be so, as streamyx has lot more bandwidth.

Terminate.. Good for you, and good for others too. Happy downloading then.

IzziNet. Anyone? Is it capped too? Guess when heavy downloading cause service degrade, it will take similar action too.
http://www.izzatz.com/ Izzatz

Izzi doesn’t do any good. Capped and very limited. Only available in Klang Valley.

Anyway FYI there is a new wimax player in town. Its amax.

Check it out here, http://www.amax.my/
http://www.izzatz.com Izzatz

Izzi doesn’t do any good. Capped and very limited. Only available in Klang Valley.

Anyway FYI there is a new wimax player in town. Its amax.

Check it out here, http://www.amax.my/
mas_cokok

Hahaha.. seem that izzi also has tiny backbone.

If you get wireless streamyx, you have 10mbps backbone to be shared among 200 subscribers. if you happen to be the only one online, u are lucky.

Amax says unlimited usage. Well, while the number of subscribers is low, yes they can. Once p2p users hog their backbone, they will cut that off.

Microwave link for backbone again. Not that much. just wait till they get congested.

So, build your own network go connect your pc to your p2p gangs and enjoy all the speed you can have – 1.0mbps? 10mbps? 100? 300? 1Gbps?
mas_cokok

Hahaha.. seem that izzi also has tiny backbone.

If you get wireless streamyx, you have 10mbps backbone to be shared among 200 subscribers. if you happen to be the only one online, u are lucky.

Amax says unlimited usage. Well, while the number of subscribers is low, yes they can. Once p2p users hog their backbone, they will cut that off.

Microwave link for backbone again. Not that much. just wait till they get congested.

So, build your own network go connect your pc to your p2p gangs and enjoy all the speed you can have – 1.0mbps? 10mbps? 100? 300? 1Gbps?
mas_cokok

Checking out Digi EDGE. It is said the service for EDGE has more coverage than that 3G Celcom has, even at rural areas can have EDGE. Can anyone verify if this is true?

I would use it for remote areas, as currently using celcom can only get GPRS. If can get EDGE, it’s better still.
mas_cokok

Checking out Digi EDGE. It is said the service for EDGE has more coverage than that 3G Celcom has, even at rural areas can have EDGE. Can anyone verify if this is true?

I would use it for remote areas, as currently using celcom can only get GPRS. If can get EDGE, it’s better still.
Fung

DiGi EDGE? For your info, I stay in Sabah, DiGi EDGE is covered almost in city area, some outskirt as well. Most of the rural area in Sabah is GPRS. As DiGi mentioned that its EDGE is supported up to 384Kbps. But I have had is MAX 128Kbps, sometimes not working at all since July 2008.
Fung

DiGi EDGE? For your info, I stay in Sabah, DiGi EDGE is covered almost in city area, some outskirt as well. Most of the rural area in Sabah is GPRS. As DiGi mentioned that its EDGE is supported up to 384Kbps. But I have had is MAX 128Kbps, sometimes not working at all since July 2008.
mas_cokok

Have you tried that in Kalabakan? Have been there few days. Like dead not having bb to upload/dnload documents / scanned images@2-5mb size. GPRS can go about 6kB/s but for this size may take few hours.

Back in peninsular, Kuala Selangor is also not covered by EDGE as in Digi’s info.

Technically, EDGE is upgrade from GSM, adding timeslots for data from the available radio spectrum; 3G is another technology added to GSM. So, maybe less costly for Digi to expand to rural compared to 3G currently.
mas_cokok

Have you tried that in Kalabakan? Have been there few days. Like dead not having bb to upload/dnload documents / scanned images@2-5mb size. GPRS can go about 6kB/s but for this size may take few hours.

Back in peninsular, Kuala Selangor is also not covered by EDGE as in Digi’s info.

Technically, EDGE is upgrade from GSM, adding timeslots for data from the available radio spectrum; 3G is another technology added to GSM. So, maybe less costly for Digi to expand to rural compared to 3G currently.
http://blog.syafril.com/ Unicynic

The problem with Celcom/TMNet is that their contention ratio is too high – imagine sharing 2MB line to 1000 customer who subscribe 1MBps! But that’s ok except that their pricing is also very high for that kind of contention ratio. Malaysians are screwed and will continue to be screwed (high price, high contention ration) as long as TM holds the monopoly. When ppl pay 99 a month for always-on broadband on 3G, they expect always-on broadband. If telco can’t reduce their contention ratio with more bandwidth, then forget the broadband business and let others fill up the void – not by continuing to HOG the industry!
http://blog.syafril.com Unicynic

The problem with Celcom/TMNet is that their contention ratio is too high – imagine sharing 2MB line to 1000 customer who subscribe 1MBps! But that’s ok except that their pricing is also very high for that kind of contention ratio. Malaysians are screwed and will continue to be screwed (high price, high contention ration) as long as TM holds the monopoly. When ppl pay 99 a month for always-on broadband on 3G, they expect always-on broadband. If telco can’t reduce their contention ratio with more bandwidth, then forget the broadband business and let others fill up the void – not by continuing to HOG the industry!
mas_cokok

True in a sense.

1. But the wireless system has not been able to support 1-to-1 connection for the true 1mbps connection all the time. The option for the true, full, connection is through direct connection end-to-end. This can be achieved by leased line which can be subscribed through any telco, or any “circuit-switched” data connection available not only from TM. In this mode, there is a direct connection from one pc (client) to the server, and no other party will ever have access to it.

2. This can also be achieved by dial-up, direct to the server. Be it through traditional 56kbps modem, HSCSD service through GSM, or by subscribing a point-to-point satellite link.

3. The current broadband services, in all implementations, is based on a shared service. This is enabled through “packet-switched” data service, as opposed to the “circuit-switched” before.

Just as we drive our vehicle out of our driveway, then into the streets, then the highway up to the destination, we never pay the full cost of the highway. It is shared amenity. If we were to pull 100 car in a row, then we are not advised or not allowed to use the road, blocking everybody else. Should build our own railroad then.

For a number of users transfer 30mbytes in browsing, that’s rather fair use. but downloading 600mbytes movies, what’s more in 4gbytes dvd movies, that’s put too much burden on the shared line.

This may need to elaborate more to understand what the technology can offer and what kinds of abuses will affect all other users.

rgds.
mas_cokok

True in a sense.

1. But the wireless system has not been able to support 1-to-1 connection for the true 1mbps connection all the time. The option for the true, full, connection is through direct connection end-to-end. This can be achieved by leased line which can be subscribed through any telco, or any “circuit-switched” data connection available not only from TM. In this mode, there is a direct connection from one pc (client) to the server, and no other party will ever have access to it.

2. This can also be achieved by dial-up, direct to the server. Be it through traditional 56kbps modem, HSCSD service through GSM, or by subscribing a point-to-point satellite link.

3. The current broadband services, in all implementations, is based on a shared service. This is enabled through “packet-switched” data service, as opposed to the “circuit-switched” before.

Just as we drive our vehicle out of our driveway, then into the streets, then the highway up to the destination, we never pay the full cost of the highway. It is shared amenity. If we were to pull 100 car in a row, then we are not advised or not allowed to use the road, blocking everybody else. Should build our own railroad then.

For a number of users transfer 30mbytes in browsing, that’s rather fair use. but downloading 600mbytes movies, what’s more in 4gbytes dvd movies, that’s put too much burden on the shared line.

This may need to elaborate more to understand what the technology can offer and what kinds of abuses will affect all other users.

rgds.
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Guys, from now on I’ll close this comment section. I found comment though blog post is quite troublesome. All discussion should go to a new forum that I just created.

This is to ensure all queries could be answer accordingly and it also help other users to retrieve information in proper manner.

So lets continue our discussion here

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Happy posting

If you have any feedback about the forum please let me know.

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Thanks