Comments on: Digi will roll out their 3G network soon, Celcom throttled http://izzatz.com/digi-will-roll-out-their-3g-network-soon-celcom-throttled/ The topsy-turvy life of a retro geek Wed, 08 Feb 2012 05:17:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Izzatz http://izzatz.com/digi-will-roll-out-their-3g-network-soon-celcom-throttled/comment-page-1/#comment-31732 Izzatz Sun, 07 Dec 2008 17:10:06 +0000 http://www.izzatz.com/digi-will-roll-out-their-3g-network-soon-celcom-throttled/#comment-31732 Guys, from now on I'll close this comment section. I found comment though blog post is quite troublesome. All discussion should go to a new forum that I just created. This is to ensure all queries could be answer accordingly and it also help other users to retrieve information in proper manner. So lets continue our discussion here http://forum.izzatz.com/ Happy posting <img src='http://izzatz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/4.gif' alt=':d' class='wp-smiley' /> If you have any feedback about the forum please let me know. http://www.izzatz.com/contact/ Thanks <img src='http://izzatz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/1.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> Guys, from now on I’ll close this comment section. I found comment though blog post is quite troublesome. All discussion should go to a new forum that I just created.

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]]> By: Izzatz http://izzatz.com/digi-will-roll-out-their-3g-network-soon-celcom-throttled/comment-page-1/#comment-41445 Izzatz Sun, 07 Dec 2008 17:10:00 +0000 http://www.izzatz.com/digi-will-roll-out-their-3g-network-soon-celcom-throttled/#comment-41445 Guys, from now on I'll close this comment section. I found comment though blog post is quite troublesome. All discussion should go to a new forum that I just created. This is to ensure all queries could be answer accordingly and it also help other users to retrieve information in proper manner. So lets continue our discussion here http://forum.izzatz.com/ Happy posting <img src='http://izzatz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/4.gif' alt=':d' class='wp-smiley' /> If you have any feedback about the forum please let me know. http://www.izzatz.com/contact/ Thanks <img src='http://izzatz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/1.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> Guys, from now on I’ll close this comment section. I found comment though blog post is quite troublesome. All discussion should go to a new forum that I just created.

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]]> By: mas_cokok http://izzatz.com/digi-will-roll-out-their-3g-network-soon-celcom-throttled/comment-page-1/#comment-31726 mas_cokok Sun, 07 Dec 2008 09:21:12 +0000 http://www.izzatz.com/digi-will-roll-out-their-3g-network-soon-celcom-throttled/#comment-31726 True in a sense. 1. But the wireless system has not been able to support 1-to-1 connection for the true 1mbps connection all the time. The option for the true, full, connection is through direct connection end-to-end. This can be achieved by leased line which can be subscribed through any telco, or any "circuit-switched" data connection available not only from TM. In this mode, there is a direct connection from one pc (client) to the server, and no other party will ever have access to it. 2. This can also be achieved by dial-up, direct to the server. Be it through traditional 56kbps modem, HSCSD service through GSM, or by subscribing a point-to-point satellite link. 3. The current broadband services, in all implementations, is based on a shared service. This is enabled through "packet-switched" data service, as opposed to the "circuit-switched" before. Just as we drive our vehicle out of our driveway, then into the streets, then the highway up to the destination, we never pay the full cost of the highway. It is shared amenity. If we were to pull 100 car in a row, then we are not advised or not allowed to use the road, blocking everybody else. Should build our own railroad then. For a number of users transfer 30mbytes in browsing, that's rather fair use. but downloading 600mbytes movies, what's more in 4gbytes dvd movies, that's put too much burden on the shared line. This may need to elaborate more to understand what the technology can offer and what kinds of abuses will affect all other users. rgds. True in a sense.

1. But the wireless system has not been able to support 1-to-1 connection for the true 1mbps connection all the time. The option for the true, full, connection is through direct connection end-to-end. This can be achieved by leased line which can be subscribed through any telco, or any “circuit-switched” data connection available not only from TM. In this mode, there is a direct connection from one pc (client) to the server, and no other party will ever have access to it.

2. This can also be achieved by dial-up, direct to the server. Be it through traditional 56kbps modem, HSCSD service through GSM, or by subscribing a point-to-point satellite link.

3. The current broadband services, in all implementations, is based on a shared service. This is enabled through “packet-switched” data service, as opposed to the “circuit-switched” before.

Just as we drive our vehicle out of our driveway, then into the streets, then the highway up to the destination, we never pay the full cost of the highway. It is shared amenity. If we were to pull 100 car in a row, then we are not advised or not allowed to use the road, blocking everybody else. Should build our own railroad then.

For a number of users transfer 30mbytes in browsing, that’s rather fair use. but downloading 600mbytes movies, what’s more in 4gbytes dvd movies, that’s put too much burden on the shared line.

This may need to elaborate more to understand what the technology can offer and what kinds of abuses will affect all other users.

rgds.

]]> By: mas_cokok http://izzatz.com/digi-will-roll-out-their-3g-network-soon-celcom-throttled/comment-page-1/#comment-41444 mas_cokok Sun, 07 Dec 2008 09:21:00 +0000 http://www.izzatz.com/digi-will-roll-out-their-3g-network-soon-celcom-throttled/#comment-41444 True in a sense. 1. But the wireless system has not been able to support 1-to-1 connection for the true 1mbps connection all the time. The option for the true, full, connection is through direct connection end-to-end. This can be achieved by leased line which can be subscribed through any telco, or any "circuit-switched" data connection available not only from TM. In this mode, there is a direct connection from one pc (client) to the server, and no other party will ever have access to it. 2. This can also be achieved by dial-up, direct to the server. Be it through traditional 56kbps modem, HSCSD service through GSM, or by subscribing a point-to-point satellite link. 3. The current broadband services, in all implementations, is based on a shared service. This is enabled through "packet-switched" data service, as opposed to the "circuit-switched" before. Just as we drive our vehicle out of our driveway, then into the streets, then the highway up to the destination, we never pay the full cost of the highway. It is shared amenity. If we were to pull 100 car in a row, then we are not advised or not allowed to use the road, blocking everybody else. Should build our own railroad then. For a number of users transfer 30mbytes in browsing, that's rather fair use. but downloading 600mbytes movies, what's more in 4gbytes dvd movies, that's put too much burden on the shared line. This may need to elaborate more to understand what the technology can offer and what kinds of abuses will affect all other users. rgds. True in a sense.

1. But the wireless system has not been able to support 1-to-1 connection for the true 1mbps connection all the time. The option for the true, full, connection is through direct connection end-to-end. This can be achieved by leased line which can be subscribed through any telco, or any “circuit-switched” data connection available not only from TM. In this mode, there is a direct connection from one pc (client) to the server, and no other party will ever have access to it.

2. This can also be achieved by dial-up, direct to the server. Be it through traditional 56kbps modem, HSCSD service through GSM, or by subscribing a point-to-point satellite link.

3. The current broadband services, in all implementations, is based on a shared service. This is enabled through “packet-switched” data service, as opposed to the “circuit-switched” before.

Just as we drive our vehicle out of our driveway, then into the streets, then the highway up to the destination, we never pay the full cost of the highway. It is shared amenity. If we were to pull 100 car in a row, then we are not advised or not allowed to use the road, blocking everybody else. Should build our own railroad then.

For a number of users transfer 30mbytes in browsing, that’s rather fair use. but downloading 600mbytes movies, what’s more in 4gbytes dvd movies, that’s put too much burden on the shared line.

This may need to elaborate more to understand what the technology can offer and what kinds of abuses will affect all other users.

rgds.

]]> By: Unicynic http://izzatz.com/digi-will-roll-out-their-3g-network-soon-celcom-throttled/comment-page-1/#comment-31577 Unicynic Thu, 04 Dec 2008 07:20:25 +0000 http://www.izzatz.com/digi-will-roll-out-their-3g-network-soon-celcom-throttled/#comment-31577 The problem with Celcom/TMNet is that their contention ratio is too high - imagine sharing 2MB line to 1000 customer who subscribe 1MBps! But that's ok except that their pricing is also very high for that kind of contention ratio. Malaysians are screwed and will continue to be screwed (high price, high contention ration) as long as TM holds the monopoly. When ppl pay 99 a month for always-on broadband on 3G, they expect always-on broadband. If telco can't reduce their contention ratio with more bandwidth, then forget the broadband business and let others fill up the void - not by continuing to HOG the industry! The problem with Celcom/TMNet is that their contention ratio is too high – imagine sharing 2MB line to 1000 customer who subscribe 1MBps! But that’s ok except that their pricing is also very high for that kind of contention ratio. Malaysians are screwed and will continue to be screwed (high price, high contention ration) as long as TM holds the monopoly. When ppl pay 99 a month for always-on broadband on 3G, they expect always-on broadband. If telco can’t reduce their contention ratio with more bandwidth, then forget the broadband business and let others fill up the void – not by continuing to HOG the industry!

]]> By: Unicynic http://izzatz.com/digi-will-roll-out-their-3g-network-soon-celcom-throttled/comment-page-1/#comment-41443 Unicynic Thu, 04 Dec 2008 07:20:00 +0000 http://www.izzatz.com/digi-will-roll-out-their-3g-network-soon-celcom-throttled/#comment-41443 The problem with Celcom/TMNet is that their contention ratio is too high - imagine sharing 2MB line to 1000 customer who subscribe 1MBps! But that's ok except that their pricing is also very high for that kind of contention ratio. Malaysians are screwed and will continue to be screwed (high price, high contention ration) as long as TM holds the monopoly. When ppl pay 99 a month for always-on broadband on 3G, they expect always-on broadband. If telco can't reduce their contention ratio with more bandwidth, then forget the broadband business and let others fill up the void - not by continuing to HOG the industry! The problem with Celcom/TMNet is that their contention ratio is too high – imagine sharing 2MB line to 1000 customer who subscribe 1MBps! But that’s ok except that their pricing is also very high for that kind of contention ratio. Malaysians are screwed and will continue to be screwed (high price, high contention ration) as long as TM holds the monopoly. When ppl pay 99 a month for always-on broadband on 3G, they expect always-on broadband. If telco can’t reduce their contention ratio with more bandwidth, then forget the broadband business and let others fill up the void – not by continuing to HOG the industry!

]]> By: mas_cokok http://izzatz.com/digi-will-roll-out-their-3g-network-soon-celcom-throttled/comment-page-1/#comment-31101 mas_cokok Thu, 27 Nov 2008 10:07:46 +0000 http://www.izzatz.com/digi-will-roll-out-their-3g-network-soon-celcom-throttled/#comment-31101 Have you tried that in Kalabakan? Have been there few days. Like dead not having bb to upload/dnload documents / scanned images@2-5mb size. GPRS can go about 6kB/s but for this size may take few hours. Back in peninsular, Kuala Selangor is also not covered by EDGE as in Digi's info. Technically, EDGE is upgrade from GSM, adding timeslots for data from the available radio spectrum; 3G is another technology added to GSM. So, maybe less costly for Digi to expand to rural compared to 3G currently. Have you tried that in Kalabakan? Have been there few days. Like dead not having bb to upload/dnload documents / scanned images@2-5mb size. GPRS can go about 6kB/s but for this size may take few hours.

Back in peninsular, Kuala Selangor is also not covered by EDGE as in Digi’s info.

Technically, EDGE is upgrade from GSM, adding timeslots for data from the available radio spectrum; 3G is another technology added to GSM. So, maybe less costly for Digi to expand to rural compared to 3G currently.

]]> By: mas_cokok http://izzatz.com/digi-will-roll-out-their-3g-network-soon-celcom-throttled/comment-page-1/#comment-41442 mas_cokok Thu, 27 Nov 2008 10:07:00 +0000 http://www.izzatz.com/digi-will-roll-out-their-3g-network-soon-celcom-throttled/#comment-41442 Have you tried that in Kalabakan? Have been there few days. Like dead not having bb to upload/dnload documents / scanned images@2-5mb size. GPRS can go about 6kB/s but for this size may take few hours. Back in peninsular, Kuala Selangor is also not covered by EDGE as in Digi's info. Technically, EDGE is upgrade from GSM, adding timeslots for data from the available radio spectrum; 3G is another technology added to GSM. So, maybe less costly for Digi to expand to rural compared to 3G currently. Have you tried that in Kalabakan? Have been there few days. Like dead not having bb to upload/dnload documents / scanned images@2-5mb size. GPRS can go about 6kB/s but for this size may take few hours.

Back in peninsular, Kuala Selangor is also not covered by EDGE as in Digi’s info.

Technically, EDGE is upgrade from GSM, adding timeslots for data from the available radio spectrum; 3G is another technology added to GSM. So, maybe less costly for Digi to expand to rural compared to 3G currently.

]]> By: Fung http://izzatz.com/digi-will-roll-out-their-3g-network-soon-celcom-throttled/comment-page-1/#comment-31100 Fung Thu, 27 Nov 2008 09:31:46 +0000 http://www.izzatz.com/digi-will-roll-out-their-3g-network-soon-celcom-throttled/#comment-31100 DiGi EDGE? For your info, I stay in Sabah, DiGi EDGE is covered almost in city area, some outskirt as well. Most of the rural area in Sabah is GPRS. As DiGi mentioned that its EDGE is supported up to 384Kbps. But I have had is MAX 128Kbps, sometimes not working at all since July 2008. DiGi EDGE? For your info, I stay in Sabah, DiGi EDGE is covered almost in city area, some outskirt as well. Most of the rural area in Sabah is GPRS. As DiGi mentioned that its EDGE is supported up to 384Kbps. But I have had is MAX 128Kbps, sometimes not working at all since July 2008.

]]> By: Fung http://izzatz.com/digi-will-roll-out-their-3g-network-soon-celcom-throttled/comment-page-1/#comment-41441 Fung Thu, 27 Nov 2008 09:31:00 +0000 http://www.izzatz.com/digi-will-roll-out-their-3g-network-soon-celcom-throttled/#comment-41441 DiGi EDGE? For your info, I stay in Sabah, DiGi EDGE is covered almost in city area, some outskirt as well. Most of the rural area in Sabah is GPRS. As DiGi mentioned that its EDGE is supported up to 384Kbps. But I have had is MAX 128Kbps, sometimes not working at all since July 2008. DiGi EDGE? For your info, I stay in Sabah, DiGi EDGE is covered almost in city area, some outskirt as well. Most of the rural area in Sabah is GPRS. As DiGi mentioned that its EDGE is supported up to 384Kbps. But I have had is MAX 128Kbps, sometimes not working at all since July 2008.

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